Linux horror

So I got an EEE PC with pre-installed OS Xandros Linux, right? So far I love almost every bit of it: size…very portable, battery…efficient, office applications…nice, web browsing…great, wifi adapter…perfect, installing new applications…

MAJOR MOTHERF*CKING HEADACHE.

Although I use OpenOffice in doing most of my documents, I’m used to Windows OS so I’m kind of lost when it comes to Linux. If you’re new to Linux (like me) and you’d want to install some applications, say, LimeWire, GOOD.LUCK. It’s not as easy as “download and install” like in Windows. You have to know that the term “terminal window” and other technical terms are vital to be able to understand and eventually successfully install applications on Linux.

So for those of you out there who are going bald trying to figure out how to install Limewire on EEE PC Linux, after several days of frustration, i tried the following, and – HALLELUJAH -it worked:

1. download the Limewire package for Ubuntu/debian from the limewire site (http:www.limewire.com/download) and save it in your Home directory.
2. press ctrl-t to open terminal window
3. type “sudo dpkg -i LimeWireLinux.deb” (without quotation marks)
4. type “limewire”

WAIT. I know, I know. Some may get the error message saying there’s something wrong with Java and the system may not have the right version. OK, so you need to install the correct JRE version for your system. One way to do that is to get Eclipse (You may be scratching your head wondering what the hell it is. Google it.). But before that, you may need to enable your system’s Full Desktop Mode (KDE) first, and here’s how you do it (you have to be connected to the Internet):

1. press ctrl-alt-t to open up a terminal
2. type “sudo bash” to gain root access
3. type “apt-get update”
4. type “apt-get install kicker” and type “y” when asked if you want to install
5. type “apt-get install ksmserver” and type “y” again
6. type “exit” to exit root account
7. type “exit” to close terminal
8. press power button and you will see the Full Desktop option on the left, press it to reboot computer to Full Desktop mode
9. If you reboot again your computer will go back to Easy Mode. go to Settings tab in easy mode, click on Personalization, and select the check box next to Full Desktop Mode. you will now have Full Desktop mode everytime you boot up.

Whew. Now the next problem is downloading a JRE for Limewire. As I’ve said earlier, you can have
that by using Eclipse. To install it you need to do the following:

1. download EasyEclipse Expert Java (easyeclipse-expert-java-1.2.2-2.tar.gz) to My Documents (default) from http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/index.html#java.
2. right click and extract all to My documents
3. go to sub directory created easyeclipse-expert-java-1.2.2 and launch it (double click)
4. if you get an error message, rename jre sub directory in sub directory easyeclipse-expert-java-1.2.2 to jre_unused
5. go to sub directory created easyeclipse-expert-java-1.2.2 and try to launch it again

Now that you have Java taken cared of, you can now try relaunching LimeWire. See how much work you need to do to install just a single application? Linux is a great OS once you get the hang of it. But geez, it’s far from being user friendly.

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  • linuxcrayon  On January 5, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    First, I’d like to say that Xandros is a terrible distribution of Linux! Why Asus chose it is beyond me. But try installing something like Xubuntu. Although I didn’t care for it, many people LOVE it. It’s extremely user-friendly, and the package manager (apt-get at command line and I believe Synaptic for graphical) is superb.

    There are hundreds of Linux distributions out there. For Linux, it’s about choice. Yeah, there’s a lot of options, but it’s really no different than buying a car. There is no “best” car; there are dozens of choices. Similarly, there is no “best” Linux distribution.

    So give Xubuntu a try. Also try OpenSUSE, which is another user-friendly distro.

  • Richard Chapman  On January 5, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    I make a point of avoiding applications that need to be installed outside of the package manager. It’s just not worth it. That’s one of the reasons I ran from Windows, one hard drive mishap and you’re clicking Next, Next, Next for every freakin’ application you installed. With the package manager method it’s just a few clicks and you have your system back. Asus, with the EEE PC, has created their own version of Linux. If someone tried Ubuntu and couldn’t get to work with their wifi card and then loudly protested that “Linux sux”, people would suggest that they try another distribution. I don’t know what the hardware limitations of the EEE PC are, but if you have to load applications separately because they are not in the EEE PC’s repository, you may want to look in to loading PCLinuxOS, SAM Linux, SimplyMepis, *buntu, Suse… You get the picture. I would Google for “off site” repositories that will work with the EEE PC too. Because something is different, it doesn’t count against it. Microsoft has spent billions and billions (Carl Sagan anyone?) of dollars insuring that we were “familiar” with their operating system. You have just proved that it was money well spent.

    And finally. If you’re are really new to Linux and you just did all that, then you will have no problem with Linux in no time. I couldn’t even do that 6 months after I started using Linux. Good job.

  • Dave  On January 5, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    I can’t speak to Xubuntu like linuxcrayon, but I can say that as a fellow new user to Linux the Ubuntu GNOME distribution has been particularly good to me. It’s always been recommended to me as the most common, stable distribution, and easy to use distribution – and I would agree with them. So, there’s my two cents for what it’s worth. (PS: I don’t know how it works in Xandros, but in my distro there are at least two GUI based package managers – add/remove and synaptic – that are built in to the OS; I didn’t start using the terminal for several months)

  • linuxcrayon  On January 6, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Richard-
    Although you may not install apps outside of the package manager, many people still do. Some distributions just don’t have certain packages, and certain programs aren’t packaged at all and HAVE to be compiled. Additionally, tracking the locations of these “built” programs is relative easy. There are some “source install trackers” out there, or you could write one on your own if you’re savvy enough.

    All in all, source installs are often required. Personally, once I finish my person source install manager, I’ll be doing source-only installs since I won’t really need to worry about version dependencies and creating symlinks to make the package happy. A simple source install and I’m done.

    That aside, if you have hardware issues with a distro, it’s worth it to try a new one. If you’re not Linux-savvy, configuring hardware is pretty scary.

  • linuxcrayon  On January 6, 2008 at 1:49 am

    And now to Dave-
    Ubuntu is an excellent distribution for many, I agree. None of the *buntus fit my bill, though. That’s not important though.

    What is important is that, although possible, the Eee may struggle with Ubuntu. It’s much more bloated / resource-intense than Xubuntu. IIRC, it also takes up more space, which the Eee is limited on (4GB), although it can be expanded via various flash drives.

    That said, Xubuntu and Ubuntu are virtually the same, with the exception of the desktop environment. Available packages are the same, the way applications work are the same, etc…

  • innovatel  On January 6, 2008 at 6:41 am

    Why you use Xandros? Can you use another Linux? I think ubuntu (or fedora) it’s percfet to start linux. The package are simple to manage with the graphical tool.

    If you don’t want to use “sudo” every time you can enable “root” …
    http://www.innoland.it/2006/03/16/ubuntu-abilitare-lutente-root/
    It’s in italian language … but you can find the “shell code” 🙂

    Bye 🙂

  • tessa  On January 6, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    hi innovatel, i use xandros because it was the pre-installed OS when i bought my eee. like what linuxcrayon said, i don’t know why on earth asus decided to choose xandros. they said they would come up with (or have they already came up?) a Windows based eee. so i people are now having doubts of getting an eee just because of the linux OS, their dilemma is solved.

    as for me.. i don’t think i’ll be installing any new application on my system anytime soon. i’m still feeling the headache it caused me

  • innovatel  On January 6, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    If it’s pre-installated is not mandatory to use that 🙂

    You can see on http://www.linux-laptop.net/ if your pc can “support” another linux 🙂

    Linux is not difficult to use … In this days my father use it a lot … the last week he does not know nothing of linux 🙂

  • tiagostavares  On January 6, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    Hi Tessa! congratulations!
    So you ask me, why congratulation? i congratulate you because 99 in 100 people who buy a computer with Linux try to uninstall the pre-installed OS to install Windows.
    I wish you had good times with you linux. Because it isn’t so hard to deal as almost everybody think.

    if you need some help, just scream, i’ll try to help you!

    Bye Bye!

  • tessa  On January 7, 2008 at 9:54 am

    hey tiagostavares, 🙂

    thanks for that. haha 🙂

  • Jamie  On June 16, 2008 at 4:57 am

    Dear person who spent their time typing these step by step instructions,
    you are AMAZING my dear.

  • tessa  On June 16, 2008 at 9:14 am

    i know. i’m amazing right? hehe. just kidding.

  • Lina  On June 26, 2008 at 4:42 am

    I know this might be off track, but can anyone guide through how to install Microsoft Money on my EEE PC? I know i have to install Microsoft Office first and there are plenty of websites out there that tell you how to do it, but then what? Can anyone help?

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